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frankieyay
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« on: January 06, 2010, 04:53:47 PM »

So I stumbled apon the reality's page on samsung's website and they say it has 256mb ram and 768mb flash mem., so why is it that when you go to media center> info> app memory, it says somewhere around 70 to 90 mb of ram and only 512 mb flash mem.?
I think we could get a serious hacking team together and put an actually potent os on this phone, like winmo or android.. something better then what we have now. Also I saw somewhere that it has a 5xx MHz processor, but im not too sure
Sources: http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/verizon-wireless-phones/SCH-U960ZSAVZW/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2010, 06:17:06 PM »

 Huh

You can use BREW...

Learn about:
BREW
Qualcomm CDMA Hard + Software
NAND/SDRAM...
ARM instructions...

What AMSS is... what EFS is... NV items...

Qualcomm Tools:
QPST
QXDM

You have many to learn.  Grin

Then come back... and think again about it.  Wink


Summary.
How you can change the OS (based on BREW)?
If since years nearly NOBODY successfully changed other Verizon handsets to Android or Win Mobile nor amazing Firmware changes...  Shocked

You know the Firmware structure... Bootloader chain and so on?

 Grin


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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2010, 06:44:38 PM »

Sorry for double post...  Grin

And how you can analyze Firmware structure... if Firmware is NOT available?  Huh

After months only DLL is leaked in public...
http://www.samsung-reality.com/software-updates/firmware-bin-and-dll-for-u960/


So Reverser missing the Firmware for research...  Grin

I'm not willing to pay 1 Cent for Firmware... So I will wait... wait and wait.
Maybe 1 day for free in public.


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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2010, 02:31:47 PM »

I wonder if it is possible to export the firmware from the phone.  There is an option to reflash the phone from the security menu so there must be a protected copy of the firmware in the phone.  We need to find some samsung developers that have a better understanding of where stuff gets hidden.
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2010, 06:04:13 PM »

Yeah, we can already get into the phone and poke around with widgets, but samsung has it pretty locked down to changes
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2010, 07:28:50 PM »

I don't think the Reality is all that locked down, vs any other phone from any other wireless company.  All the providers lock them down, to prevent the deu's from breaking them. 
deu=defective end user
They also turn off a lot of functionality so they can sell up.  The current chalenge is just to fully document the phone, and hope to find support from developers.  It would be nice if bitpim supported this phone, but they don't even have one, don't hold your breath.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2010, 11:15:06 PM »

But Reality is not "special" or "new"...

It is the same "problem" since 2001...  Roll Eyes

It is an BREW enabled handset...

BREW is Qualcomm stuff...

Qualcomm offers FREE BREW SDK and Infos for study...

For access filesystem on U960 there are MORE Tools available as only BitPim...  Cool


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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2010, 07:37:44 PM »

going to be keeping an eye on this thread, i would LOVE to have winmobile or android on this phone
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2010, 08:18:18 PM »

Brew is not replaceable.  No linux or windows.  The best we can hope for is a JavaVM outside the browser, they do exist for brew.  Widgets could be another way to add significant function, but Samsung does not support widget development on Reality yet, Soon?
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2010, 09:29:50 PM »

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...JavaVM outside...

JAVA Virtual Machine is an BREW Extension...
BUT it is integrated in AMSS...

There are some differences between dynamic Apps like you know... what comes over the Air and you can find with BitPim... MIF + MOD + SIG...

The internal BREW Apps in Firmware called static Apps... MIF + and now comes the Game over... files with Extension .c and so on... NO *.MOD files...

I NEVER seen JAVA Extension...  Sad There is NO way to find all parts as it is spread over the whole Firmware...  Sad  Sad  Sad


Best Example is VX9700 and CX9700... SAME device, but CX9700 is JAVA capable as it has the JAVA VM in Firmware...

Normally it would be "easy" for Developer of JAVA VM Extension to make run on U960...
But it seems Qualcomm not interested... Samsung not interested... and Verizon not interested...  Grin  Grin  Grin

JAVA VM would be around 4 or 6 MB... I think less then 10 MB complete, with all necessary "Libraries"...

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Brew is not replaceable.

But REX this is the name of U960 Operation System... with BREW...
BREW is upgradable... via Extensions...

Working and confirmed example is for instance Flash lite.
Flash lite exists as BREW Extension to install on nearly all BREW handsets...
except you need mandatory valid SIGnature file *.sig

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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2010, 05:42:37 PM »

Thanks for the info Adfree.
Some hope exists. Grin
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2010, 06:33:11 PM »

I got into ma reality a few days ago after dropping it in the fish tank and i took some pretty good pics of the qualcomm chip. If thats the chip I think it is than it's the one the Droid eris uses
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2010, 10:58:43 PM »

if i was to get the JAVA VIRTUAL MACHINE what type of applications or widgets would i be able to download? and how can i download the JAVA VIRTUAL MACHINE?
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2010, 06:10:10 AM »

At this time unless you have figured out how to hack the reality you can't get a java virtual machine. If you could there are alot of things that java based.
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2010, 03:51:49 PM »

can i ask you how i would be able to hack the reality
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